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mplayer always in background after upgrade from 0.21 -> 0.23.

30 Jul 2010
Posted by Brett Kosinski

Well, this evening I finally decided to take the plunge and move to
0.23 (among other things, the changes to mythvideo sound rather
interesting). After spending much time hacking the Retro-wide theme
port so it looks at least sorta similar to the original Retro theme
from 0.21, I decided to try out mythvideo. The upside is all the
video content is still there, with what little metadata I had before
still present. The downside is that every time I start a video, which
fires up mplayer (my preferred video player), mplayer gets shoved into
the background and Myth's lovely blue background dominates the screen.
Alt-tabbing shows that mplayer is running just fine, just not on top
(though full screen... go figure).

This worked just fine with 0.21, so I'm curious if anyone knows if
there's some configuration that needs to be changed to fix the
behaviour. And barring that, what kind of work around can I put in
place to get this working again? Again, this worked just fine before,
so I don't believe it's a WM problem (I'm using fluxbox on the FE in
question)...

Thanks in advance!

Brett.
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mplayer always in background after upgrade from 0.21 -> 0.23.

On 07/30/2010 09:42 PM, Brett Kosinski wrote:
> Well, this evening I finally decided to take the plunge and move to
> 0.23 (among other things, the changes to mythvideo sound rather
> interesting). After spending much time hacking the Retro-wide theme
> port so it looks at least sorta similar to the original Retro theme
> from 0.21, I decided to try out mythvideo. The upside is all the
> video content is still there, with what little metadata I had before
> still present. The downside is that every time I start a video, which
> fires up mplayer (my preferred video player), mplayer gets shoved into
> the background and Myth's lovely blue background dominates the screen.
> Alt-tabbing shows that mplayer is running just fine, just not on top
> (though full screen... go figure).
>
> This worked just fine with 0.21, so I'm curious if anyone knows if
> there's some configuration that needs to be changed to fix the
> behaviour. And barring that, what kind of work around can I put in
> place to get this working again? Again, this worked just fine before,
> so I don't believe it's a WM problem (I'm using fluxbox on the FE in
> question)...

It's a WM problem. MythTV does not place Windows within X. Window
Managers do.

(And I'll bet you upgraded Fluxbox from 1.0 to 1.1 in the upgrade, too.)

On the bright side, the Internal player doesn't rely on Window Manager
placement... Maybe time to switch? :)

Mike
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mplayer always in background after upgrade from 0.21 -> 0.23.

>
> It's a WM problem.  MythTV does not place Windows within X.  Window Managers
> do.
>
> (And I'll bet you upgraded Fluxbox from 1.0 to 1.1 in the upgrade, too.)

'fraid not, no. The only thing that was upgraded on this box was myth
and its dependencies. The window manager remains exactly the same,
including all attendant configuration.

No, something's definitely changed in Myth's behaviour. Perhaps it's
just broken with flux, now, I don't know, but whatever the change is,
it's on the Myth side of the world. Which means I now, apparently,
have to go back and experiment with WM's again... joy...

> On the bright side, the Internal player doesn't rely on Window Manager
> placement...  Maybe time to switch?  :)

I should've added a disclaimer on this, too. I just knew someone was
going to suggest that as a "solution"...

Brett.
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mplayer always in background after upgrade from 0.21 -> 0.23.

On 07/30/2010 11:11 PM, Brett Kosinski wrote:
>> It's a WM problem. MythTV does not place Windows within X. Window Managers
>> do.
>>
>> (And I'll bet you upgraded Fluxbox from 1.0 to 1.1 in the upgrade, too.)
> 'fraid not, no. The only thing that was upgraded on this box was myth
> and its dependencies. The window manager remains exactly the same,
> including all attendant configuration.
>
> No, something's definitely changed in Myth's behaviour. Perhaps it's
> just broken with flux, now, I don't know, but whatever the change is,
> it's on the Myth side of the world. Which means I now, apparently,
> have to go back and experiment with WM's again... joy...

Yes, MythTV now supports proper full-screen windows--and it didn't in
0.21-fixes (because Qt3 didn't).

However, it's still a problem with the WM.

Likely if you set the mythfrontend size to something just under your
full screen size (i.e. one pixel short of the X or Y size of your
screen), it will probably work (even with a WM that refuses to allow
non-fullscreen windows on top of fullscreen windows) since MythTV won't
be fullscreen anymore.

Or you can use Internal... :)

Mike
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mplayer always in background after upgrade from 0.21 -> 0.23.

And just a quick followup, switching to ice seems to have solved the
issue. My bet, at this point, is that Myth 0.23 (and probably 0.22,
I'm thinking it's related to the MythUI migration) exposed a bug in
the version of flux I was using.

Thanks, Michael, for kicking me in the butt to just try another WM...
I should've just done that, first, before spamming the list. :)

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Brett Kosinski
wrote:
>>
>> It's a WM problem.  MythTV does not place Windows within X.  Window Managers
>> do.
>>
>> (And I'll bet you upgraded Fluxbox from 1.0 to 1.1 in the upgrade, too.)
>
> 'fraid not, no.  The only thing that was upgraded on this box was myth
> and its dependencies.  The window manager remains exactly the same,
> including all attendant configuration.
>
> No, something's definitely changed in Myth's behaviour.  Perhaps it's
> just broken with flux, now, I don't know, but whatever the change is,
> it's on the Myth side of the world.  Which means I now, apparently,
> have to go back and experiment with WM's again... joy...
>
>> On the bright side, the Internal player doesn't rely on Window Manager
>> placement...  Maybe time to switch?  :)
>
> I should've added a disclaimer on this, too.  I just knew someone was
> going to suggest that as a "solution"...
>
> Brett.
>
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